Janson Posted November 15, 2001 Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 Någon som kan ett stardate som motsvarar nån gång år 2378? (spelar ingen roll exakt när det är) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrogie Posted November 16, 2001 Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 Jag har för mig att det är så här. Detta stycke har jag "fått" av Jocke någon vecka inann jag blev medlem. APPENDIX I: REGARDING STARDATES Gene Roddenberry said he invented stardates primarily as a means to remind us that the show was set in the future. We thought about trying to derive a formula to convert star- dates to our present Gregorian calendar, but we quickly dis- covered that several different methods have been used to determine stardates over the history of the show. It became clear that stardates were never intended to be examined too closely, and that many errors have crept into the system over the years. (Naturally, we did examine them too closely, but at least now you've been warned.) Much of the first Star Trek series seemed to advance the stardate an average of about 57 units each episode, from 1512 in "The Corbomite Maneuver" (TOS) to 5928 in "Turnabout Intruder" (TOS). Within a given episode, an increase of one unit (i.e., 1312 to 1313) seemed to correspond to about 24 hours. Additionally, there were a few episodes in which stardates apparently went backward from the previous week's show. The real reason for this is that the Star Trek pro- duction staff didn't always know which order the network would air the episodes. Dorothy Fontana also notes that some episodes were filmed out of intended order when writers were late in completing their scripts. (Ms. Fontana was diplo- matic enough to avoid naming any names.) Nevertheless, enough people asked about these appar- ent "errors" so that Gene Roddenberry came up with an expla- nation in Stephen Whitfield's The Making of Star Trek, which explains that stardates "adjust for shifts in relative time which occur due to the vessel's speed and space warp capability." Roddenberry added that "the stardate specified in the log entry must be computed against the speed of the vessel, the space warp, and its position within our galaxy in order to get a meaningful reading." (Gene also admitted that he wasn't quite sure what that explanation meant, and that he was glad that a lot of people seemed to think it made sense.) The Star Trek feature films showed a gradual increase in stardates in each succeeding film. The numbers seem to have been arbitrarily determined, since the apparent value of stardate units seemed to vary widely in the gaps between movies. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country was an even stranger case. This picture was set about four years after Star Trek V (stardate 8454). We've seen from the original Star Trek series that a span of three years can correspond to an increase of 4416 units, which could easily have put Star Trek VI into the five-digit range. A five-digit stardate seemed inap- propriate for a Star Trek movie with the original Enterprise crew, since the longer stardates have been the province of the Next Generation. For this reason, the stardate for Star Trek VI was arbitrarily set at 9523, since this was near the upper limit of four-digit numbers. (We have a bit of insight into this selec- tion process as Star Trek VI cowriter Denny Martin Flinn con- sulted with chronology coauthor Mike Okuda on this matter.) Yet another method for stardate computation was employed for episodes of the Star Trek: The Next Generation- era spinoff shows. Gene Roddenberry made Next Generation stardates five-digit numbers, apparently to underscore the years that theoretically elapsed since the first Star Trek series. He arbitrarily chose 4 as the first digit (supposedly because this show is set in the 24th century, although we expect star- dates to cross the 50000 mark at the beginning of the 1996- 1997 season), and designated the second digit as the number of the show's current season. The last three digits increase unevenly from 000 at the beginning of a season, to 999 at the end. This means that a stardate of 43999 would be the last day of the third season of Star Trek: The Next Generation. (Of course, given this setup, the last four digits of a stardate do not contain enough information to account for an entire century.) As with the original series, an increase of a single unit within an episode corresponds to about 24 hours, even though this is inconsistent with a 365-day year. (We rationalize that rela- tivistic time dilation makes up the difference.) Star Trek: The Next Generation script coordinator Eric Stillwell served as the show's keeper of stardates during the first five seasons. Every year, Eric issued a memo listing suggested stardate ranges for each upcoming episode. This memo served as a guide to help our writers keep their stardates in order. Still, as we noted earlier, stardates were never intended to stand up under close scrutiny. Several methods of deriving stardates from calendar dates have been developed by Star Trek fans. One of the most popular systems arranges the year, month, and date so that a Gregorian calendar date of July 20, 1969, corresponds to a "stardate" of 6907.20. Although this does not correspond to the stardates used on the show, many fans enjoy using them anyway. Another conjectural theory espoused by some fans theo- rizes that stardates relate only to the length of the ship's cur- rent voyage. For example, a stardate of 1312 (as in "Where No Man Has Gone Before" [TOS]) would indicate that the log entry was made thirteen months, twelve days since the ship left port. By coincidence or design, stardate 5928, given in "Turnabout Intruder" (TOS), the last episode of the original series, would correspond under this system to the sixtieth month or the end of the fifth year of the Enterprise's mission. Scannat och konverterat från Star Trek Chronology av Joakim Karlsson Det är så här det fungar, du kan försöka själv, jag fattar noll Proton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrogie Posted November 16, 2001 Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 .......föresten vad ska du ha just det datumet till?? bara undrar.... :( Proton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted November 16, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 Jag har skrivit en novell på engelska idag som utspelar sig i Star Trek. (skolarbete) Och då skulle jag behöva ett stardate. Om ni är intresserade av att läsa den vet jag inte hur det skulle gå till...Den är nämligen på fyra sidor, så det skulle inte vara någon bra idé att lägga upp den i ett inlägg... Fattar inte hur man skulle räkna ut det med hjälp av den texten...det måste inte vara just 2378 men nån gång under voyager iallafall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocke Posted November 16, 2001 Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 Stardate 48315.6 är någon gång under år 2371, då Voyager skickades till Deltakvadranten. Du kan ju kolla igenom avsnittsguiden och kanske välja ett stardate som ligger lite längre fram och då kanske motsvarar år 2378. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted November 16, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 Ja, där fanns ju en massa stardates där...skulle nog kollat där innan jag frågade Jag skulle också behöva numret på en sector i Delta kvadranten som är ockuperad av Borg. Nån som kan ett sånt nummer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrogie Posted November 16, 2001 Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 ska du gör en uppstats om borger eller??? :sigh: jag kan inte komma på en sector där borgerna har ockuperat. Om inte 005 är det, eller så är 005 den sectorn med kremnierna eller nåt. Dom där med "Tempral Core" och tid meknik mm. Proton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted November 16, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 Nej, det är ingen uppsats... Jag har skrivit en novell (kort berättelse) som utspelar sig ombord på ett Nebula Class skepp. Den är skriven på engelska, eftersom jag har som läxa att skriva en novell på engelska. I novellen kommer dom till en Borg ockuperad sector i Delta kvadranten, och det känns ju inte rätt att hitta på ett nummer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Posted November 16, 2001 Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 Jocke: en avdelning med fan faction kanske vore värt att starta? Voyager kom ju hem 2378, och Endgame (#271 & 272) har stardate 54973.4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrogie Posted November 17, 2001 Report Share Posted November 17, 2001 Okej, Janson det förklarar dig.... Jag har letat på "borg sidor" men utan resultat. Proton Vad är Fan faction?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted November 17, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2001 Jag tror Quiet menar fan fiction. Det är (vad jag har förstått) när fans skriver egna noveller eller avsnitt. Har jag rätt? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Posted November 17, 2001 Report Share Posted November 17, 2001 Jag tror Quiet menar fan fiction. Det är (vad jag har förstått) när fans skriver egna noveller eller avsnitt. Har jag rätt? *hihi* Jag är visst lite trött. Visst Janson, du har rätt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocke Posted November 18, 2001 Report Share Posted November 18, 2001 Quote from Quiet, posted on Nov. 16 2001,16:43 Jocke: en avdelning med fan faction kanske vore värt att starta? Jag skall lägga till det i min "tipslista", så får vi se om det händer något, tack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlox Posted November 24, 2001 Report Share Posted November 24, 2001 2378, då blir det ett stardate som är 55???. Här är en förklaring om vilket år säsongerna utspelades i: 2364 41000 TNG S1 2365 42000 TNG S2 2366 43000 TNG S3 2367 44000 TNG S4 2368 45000 TNG S5 2369 46000 TNG S6, DS9 S1 2370 47000 TNG S7, DS9 S2 2371 48000 VOY S1, DS9 S3, Generations 2372 49000 VOY S2, DS9 S4 2373 50000 VOY S3, DS9 S5, First Contact 2374 51000 VOY S4, DS9 S6, Insurrection? 2375 52000 VOY S5, DS9 S7 2376 53000 VOY S6 2377 54000 VOY S7 Frågetecknet på Insurrection beror på att det inte sades vilket stardate det var i filmen,men tros att det utspelar sig mellan DS9s säsong 6 och 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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